tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30135045263389708822024-03-17T11:26:46.920-07:00The Jones GenealogistClimbing trees for more than 50 years.The Jones Genealogisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08384328568699198104noreply@blogger.comBlogger503125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3013504526338970882.post-63687745524622543212024-03-14T15:25:00.000-07:002024-03-14T15:25:32.517-07:00Shareland<p> Dwelling in the house that was built on the plot of land and, which was surrounded by a permanent enclosure, was a foundational requirement for ownership. A year and a day was the usual given time to plant your sleeping bag, build your cook stove, roast your first meat, and to seed your garden. This also gave time for anyone else to question or to challenge your selection of opened land. Now, the fireplace was located in the center of the house so that rising smoke would flow centrally to the ceiling opening which was so designed. This "hearth" became the symbol of your family's life and, the "cauldron" became the inheritance of the youngest son. [Jenkins, p. 261, under Welsh word <i>dadannudd</i> meaning uncovering of a fire banked up overnight] Hum...banked up overnight would mean you had to reside there and not run off to some other location.</p><p> Four acres of adjoining land was accepted as standard to each <i>toft</i>. As time past, and generations began to show up around the place, the need for more space would become evident. A generation was considered 30 years and additional family members would be busting at the seams. For 14 years a son was to be at his father's plate (covering and uncovering the family hearth) but, after this duration the son became his own boss and, destinated to be trained by the closest warlord. By 18-20 years of age, the well-trained free man was ready to plant his own <i>toft</i>. A new house with a distinctive fence and four more acres could be added to the family farm. After three generations (90 years), a clustering of <i>tofts</i> would be joined. When four <i>tofts</i> were reached, this became known as "shareland" and would contain 4x4=16 acres of adjoining land. At the fourth generation down from the first <i>toft</i> planted (by great-grandfather), each male heir could become a new proprietor! How about that, roughly a century of joint ownership together. No wonder it was called shareland!</p><p> Now here again is a drawing of my notes:</p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj-3QYpjfetNqI2cR6dLPt1mdmyU_KW6WKQLDVU4OzMXl9vxEP7b9Sha60TQqI9eq1Ql142o2NpmrQNacw-0iX_oNPMDoF45tBUsHaB7XnVvvtUsa6BW1VFJqHYeAvS5ak1Qq8__IxmGzUnB1n6NPck-P0KhneyuLN7iKxkjem-j3HctQommYhaEu0W/s3300/img102.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="3300" data-original-width="2550" height="640" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj-3QYpjfetNqI2cR6dLPt1mdmyU_KW6WKQLDVU4OzMXl9vxEP7b9Sha60TQqI9eq1Ql142o2NpmrQNacw-0iX_oNPMDoF45tBUsHaB7XnVvvtUsa6BW1VFJqHYeAvS5ak1Qq8__IxmGzUnB1n6NPck-P0KhneyuLN7iKxkjem-j3HctQommYhaEu0W/w494-h640/img102.jpg" width="494" /></a></div> Drum roll please...your not going to believe this...here is an enlargement of a photo taken from the air which shows such a shareland as it actually existed around 300 A.D. Please take a good look.<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjwNTLEGYEwj01hsftuOChxMiK1n92PPgvQfNd4BZShVNulV2bzgXWkUJYv5lPQmtkYdVYT7sPVN-UfG4Sj2zg3t-Unz8AHhpj7xa_ZlqGid_4Foysl-GPWPK8GLO-n0dA5JcVXqKfVg-MeEIvFQVjVho-twzcCRd1txIBASbz0h7376D0gUrMnR_-N/s773/toft.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="465" data-original-width="773" height="240" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjwNTLEGYEwj01hsftuOChxMiK1n92PPgvQfNd4BZShVNulV2bzgXWkUJYv5lPQmtkYdVYT7sPVN-UfG4Sj2zg3t-Unz8AHhpj7xa_ZlqGid_4Foysl-GPWPK8GLO-n0dA5JcVXqKfVg-MeEIvFQVjVho-twzcCRd1txIBASbz0h7376D0gUrMnR_-N/w400-h240/toft.jpg" width="400" /></a></div> Four <i>tofts</i> are shown. The house is the uniformed, smaller circular areas surrounded by a larger enclosure for each<i> toft</i>. The four acres of land joining each <i>toft</i> can be roughly identified with a group of other adjoining walled areas. Pathways to each house can be followed with a separate entrance for each. Could you share this land with your kin?<div><br /></div><div> The photo is found p. 59 in the text titled <i>Celtic Britain</i> by Lloyd Laing but, does not give a complete description. The picture is taken near Penzance, Cornwall and, Laing reports the site is thought to be occupied from "...first century BC until c. AD 300". This would certainly allow enough time for Gadforch (JA-1) to Ynyr (JB-1), then to Tudor Trevor (JC-1) and Ynyr his brother (JC-3), then to the three son of Tudor (JC-1), i.e. Goronwy (JD-1), Llydocla (JD-2), and my own direct line through the baby of the brothers, Dingad (JD-3) to get their <i>tofts</i> together and become the next proprietors.</div><div><br /></div><div>P.S. The book by Laing is shown post April 19, 2022.<br /><div><br /><p><br /></p><p> </p></div></div>The Jones Genealogisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08384328568699198104noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3013504526338970882.post-6536275641376876402024-03-12T15:30:00.000-07:002024-03-12T15:30:16.902-07:00The House<p> Hunting and fishing for something to eat was a common activity of the day. Open spaces allowed for such adventures and, one could cover around 20 miles going a comfortable pace. [My "Boy Scout" days during the 1960s gave evidence of such "hikes", [see post August 12, 2013 titled "In Those Days"]. At any rate, one would find a plot of land not occupied by others, which by your judgement, might provide the needed resources such as water, grazing, and game. It was time to plant some roots anyway and, to get that Jones family tree a growing. Interestingly, Welsh genealogists such as Lewys Dwnn (1846) record the Welsh family as a "plant"! [see post April 9, 2023 titled "References"]</p><p> Planting that family tree first required a house. In the Welsh a house was <i>ty</i> (accent circumfex [^] over <i>y</i>). Not sure why the accent [^] was always placed over the vowel "y" with this word but, any Welsh writers out there to help understand this usage? Anyway, the house was placed upon the selected land and, encircling the house with a fence, was the crown of ownership. The fence enclosing a house became called a <i>toft</i> and, you were then the owner that was socially recognized a "proprietor". Thus, the <i>toft</i> was a plot of land carrying a house with the key being the plot was enclosed. As the proprietor, your name became the proper way to link this plot of land to your ownership and, this became the object of legal rights of property to your kindred and descent. Wow...keeping all these principles straight? Let's see, here is a copy of my notes on the concepts:</p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiHWZT0ebqyZiOIOyeQ-DfOTJnoiMhhnRqhMojFmaWvB82bu4VNHpTI3GvX0qOU_EosJEhpLxCao45zBdx-pst0PNmkPgxuBCga0HGpGi_bFmUZzwq6-Sn_v3AOXoqIAlNzKh-7pBRwLFR8wwH2DGHysSNtnTbKS-zTc_MLjv_DAwpIxzQ2xZQBBUx3/s3300/img100.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="3300" data-original-width="2550" height="640" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiHWZT0ebqyZiOIOyeQ-DfOTJnoiMhhnRqhMojFmaWvB82bu4VNHpTI3GvX0qOU_EosJEhpLxCao45zBdx-pst0PNmkPgxuBCga0HGpGi_bFmUZzwq6-Sn_v3AOXoqIAlNzKh-7pBRwLFR8wwH2DGHysSNtnTbKS-zTc_MLjv_DAwpIxzQ2xZQBBUx3/w494-h640/img100.jpg" width="494" /></a></div> Starting with "land" (<i>tir)</i> at the top, the "house" (<i>ty</i> with accent shown) to <i>toft</i> is shown. The page numbers listed are from the text by Jenkins. The <i>toft</i> was to contain 4 "legal" acres of land as accepted during the period of time. It was the object of legal rights to each particular person building the house and fencing the plot. In the law books the concept was <i>tir a daear</i> (land and earth). <div><br /></div><div>P.S. For a discussion of the Celtic land usage see text by Miranda Green, <i>The Celtic World</i>, reviewed post April 17, 2022, pp. 192-199. Much more to come from the <i>toft</i>!<br /><p><br /></p></div>The Jones Genealogisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08384328568699198104noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3013504526338970882.post-68905513089039300012024-03-07T14:48:00.000-08:002024-03-10T10:42:43.287-07:00Before And After<p> The valley of death that separated my Jones surname family during 1348-1350 A.D., certainly had a before and after. To understand the "before" helps recognize the cultural dimensions that had assisted the families' survival for many generations. This was certainly ahead of that cataclysmic event called the "Black Death". You might call these thoughts foundational concepts.</p><p> "Land and Earth" would be my first foundation. Professor of Ancient History [Dr. Eduard Meyer, University of Berlin, 1904] stated: </p><p> "The character of every people is more or less closely connected with that of its land". </p><p> My Jones-Welsh ancestors shared this dynamic. Land had the concept of open space that was the portion of the earth's <u>solid</u> surface, as separated from <u>sea</u> (water) and <u>air</u> (atmosphere). This land was not to be permanently enclosed ["Don't Fence Me In"] and, "FIRST COME, FIRST SERVED" was the accepted theory. </p><p> In the earliest written law book (customary principles described), a copy translated and edited by Dafydd Jenkins [see post April 4, 2022], in his introduction p.<i> xvii</i>, states the oldest surviving written Welsh, is the account of a dispute relating to some land. Can you believe it? He goes on to state that there were additional records relating to land on other pages of the same manuscript. </p><p> Let's see now, the laws (customary principles) of Wales were first grouped together during the days of Hywel Dda [ca. 880 - 950 A.D.]. Remember, my ancestor Tudor Trevor (JC-1) was married to a daughter of old Hywel [Anghard (JC-2)]. Jenkins translates further, p. 120, even before "...the crown of London and the sceptre were taken by the English...", a fellow named Dyfnwal Moelmud was the first to make "good laws in this island". These laws lasted until Hywel made his updated edition [called a Redaction] but, "...Hywel did not change the measures of lands in this island from what Dyfnwal had left, for he was the best of measurers". </p><p> Hum...the best of measurers...and, "The reason that he measured it was in order to know its tribute and its mileage and its journeys by day". (p. 120) Nothing like those taxes as far back as 650 A.D. which is discussed in Davies' book, (p.63). [see post November 16, 2022] The last "King of Wales" was slain around this date and, the Welsh of the day wrote, "And from that time onwards the Britons lost the crown of the kingdom and the Saxons won it".</p><p> Land and Earth, <i>tir a daear</i> in the Welsh, (p.359,Jenkins) is the first customary principle and, much more from here. Seems we were called Britons at this time in my family history.</p><p>P.S. Of interest to my Jones surname family tree is that the first Jones son to be born on this side of the great pond was Cadwallader Jones (JT-143) around 1650 in Virginia. He was given the name of this last king of the Britons slain ca. 680 A.D. He (JT-143) has become my most favorite great...grandfather. There is a blog which discusses in great detail his life and times. </p><p> https://cadwalladerjones.blogspot.com </p><p> </p>The Jones Genealogisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08384328568699198104noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3013504526338970882.post-63249842648807192602024-02-21T17:33:00.000-08:002024-02-21T17:33:21.897-08:00The Valley of Death<p> Just when you thought things could not get any worse for the ancestors, wrong! After all the changes like, that castle building stuff, new rules and regulations, all kinds of different overlords, claiming all kinds of rights and privileges. Trying to adjust to a new home, then having to ride along different paths, leading to new trading pathways that might still offer some hope for the future, were many of the families' activities. Then the little critter shown below, brought death to most all around.</p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj5w7o7PPi7KZywJJa7AncUbEqZ2Gf85DWOQgWtyMwdxL9mI-pcg8pkZg5lwivlqGfoLcXjb7nCuE3y-HJ6TPYPUjZFBOSLQcwYdUJdwuuSWYu_NoQWfsLe_bjQpfd8So8D1Qr9XvI8aJ2Yl_7m_VcFimL6o-6RIzozVRWxxW0CqX_GJXkES2jeCYlu/s1020/img096.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1020" data-original-width="937" height="400" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj5w7o7PPi7KZywJJa7AncUbEqZ2Gf85DWOQgWtyMwdxL9mI-pcg8pkZg5lwivlqGfoLcXjb7nCuE3y-HJ6TPYPUjZFBOSLQcwYdUJdwuuSWYu_NoQWfsLe_bjQpfd8So8D1Qr9XvI8aJ2Yl_7m_VcFimL6o-6RIzozVRWxxW0CqX_GJXkES2jeCYlu/w368-h400/img096.jpg" width="368" /></a></div> Can you believe it? The flea it is. This fella rode the back of a much larger critter called the rat. That dirty rat! The most responsible was named <i>Rattus rattus</i>. This rat was recognized by the fact that its tail was longer than its body and, the color was mostly black. This fella road the ships that came from various ports of trade to the shores of our little island. Here is its picture. <div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjHFZf7HgLQ9-o4ym7DqAEPpmpDh0Ps2GxTA6PrAHMDpDHRdRD3KCQDa7Bz7c9_eByTMpeihbl8WgROIEzWLgi4fWdKMiLApeos0RABEFeu2G1jvGpOKOA2uqAKr9KTwlK6oUZQ8-kz04Lw6hm8oYKnsp-qDefSN8ee_pSQo4TTPqtzERPYto7bbbLA/s1489/img098.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="578" data-original-width="1489" height="155" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjHFZf7HgLQ9-o4ym7DqAEPpmpDh0Ps2GxTA6PrAHMDpDHRdRD3KCQDa7Bz7c9_eByTMpeihbl8WgROIEzWLgi4fWdKMiLApeos0RABEFeu2G1jvGpOKOA2uqAKr9KTwlK6oUZQ8-kz04Lw6hm8oYKnsp-qDefSN8ee_pSQo4TTPqtzERPYto7bbbLA/w400-h155/img098.jpg" width="400" /></a></div><div> The "black death" this event was called. Not because the rat was black but, it was named after the change of appearance that the folks took after they were infected.</div><div> </div><div> Taking 2 to 15 days after the bite of the flea, loss of appetite (anorexia) and bone pain were the first signs. Next came very high fever (pyrexia), headache, severe fatigue (lassitude), dizziness (vertigo) and rarely shaking chills (rigor). The face would have an expression of horror. The fever could get as high as 103-107 degree Fahrenheit. All over the body large bleeding (hemorrhages) and just under the skin bruising (ecchymoses) would occur. Pustules, abscesses and lymph node swellings called "Buboes" all appeared, thus giving the name Bubonic plague. These swellings were usually in the groin or under the arm pit (axilla). Skin would become dry and feel burning. The tongue would turn black, dry, and form ridges called furrows and, sores on the lips, gums, and nostrils would form. Low, muttering delirium would occur. Vomiting was frequent. Death rate (mortality) was around 65 % and if the infection settled in the lungs (Pneumonic plage) it was always fatal. </div><div><br /></div><div> The bacteria that brought this rapid course was initially called <i>Pasteurella pestis</i> but, came to be named after the fellow who discovered it in 1894, Yersin, <i>Yersinia pestis</i>. A "pestis" it certainly was and, a real valley of death.</div><div><br /></div><div> The best text that discusses this plague from its historical perspective is by Philip Ziegler in 1991.</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjP2OMdXzfsb28PrZ3XDq_BBqhAc_p3iuc1l1QBAa4PMAVPC6mq5ouxkrve0T2P-RwXK1m6TwUGftFFm80_crV68_dXLm5T0Mpv5fv-i-vGdsY8dkRwI9DqneovtscWa7c0z0zbtd4EnN1SGrxrSoI55WWnWuo6UYU9aBMBUQ-NKj4Kxx2LTVys-8Re/s5880/File168.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="600" data-original-width="5880" height="41" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjP2OMdXzfsb28PrZ3XDq_BBqhAc_p3iuc1l1QBAa4PMAVPC6mq5ouxkrve0T2P-RwXK1m6TwUGftFFm80_crV68_dXLm5T0Mpv5fv-i-vGdsY8dkRwI9DqneovtscWa7c0z0zbtd4EnN1SGrxrSoI55WWnWuo6UYU9aBMBUQ-NKj4Kxx2LTVys-8Re/w400-h41/File168.jpg" width="400" /></a></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjClfRonk9QI8_tYrgGyTfOqcVQ3efPUgHsZwxUm5J-Rp6IBGrb6W8zTt724k0J7FlbUCkCQTKVFQj0aKkqggGDYmjKhU9rDKg5HVythojJqlAQSsrNY-FFJSpZsbL3YqLNLhXjzJmM_PUnoP-8UlgKOhtmcO3srT4FWn2bytKBY_7HGI4kkpDZ93tv/s5353/File169.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="5353" data-original-width="1711" height="400" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjClfRonk9QI8_tYrgGyTfOqcVQ3efPUgHsZwxUm5J-Rp6IBGrb6W8zTt724k0J7FlbUCkCQTKVFQj0aKkqggGDYmjKhU9rDKg5HVythojJqlAQSsrNY-FFJSpZsbL3YqLNLhXjzJmM_PUnoP-8UlgKOhtmcO3srT4FWn2bytKBY_7HGI4kkpDZ93tv/w127-h400/File169.jpg" width="127" /></a></div><br /><div> Having just experienced our own pandemic with COVID 19, my heart has a new understanding and admiration for all my ancestors who kept that DNA flowing down the branches.</div><div><br /></div><div>The flea picture is taken from my article "Fleas", <i>American Family Physician</i>, vol. 29, No. 4, April, 1984.</div><div><br /></div><div>The rat picture from London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine, appearing in <i>Manson's Tropical Diseases, </i>p. 337. [One of my favorite tropical medicine texts published 1982, by Bailliere Tindall, London].</div><div><br /></div><div>The text by Ziegler was first titled "Western Europe Man, Black Death. Epidemics, history I", 1969, in the United Kingdom. It was first published in the U.S. by Alan Sutton, NH, 1991. </div><div><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><br /><div><br /></div>The Jones Genealogisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08384328568699198104noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3013504526338970882.post-9966846490817858012024-02-15T08:16:00.000-08:002024-02-15T08:16:14.741-08:00Circumstances<p> Old ways to new ways can be difficult for those who are steeped in the old. Seeing how my Jones surname family resided successfully at Llwyn-Ynn for the next century to come, they somehow managed to keep the home fires burning. </p><p> Wool and wine seemed to be an important trade issue and, Seward states that "...English wool, leather, resin, and salt." (p. 24) were all the rave across that Channel. My family would have been involved with all these trade items.</p><p> Here is a list of my great...great grandfathers living at this time. Note that the maternal sides are named and, their townlands are noted. At times down the road, these townlands often became a helpful clue while climbing among all the branches. </p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiC_GMK105t0vl6fPQBnmWVfrn5ZO1Y_zrvRnCS8lCggN1gs9RpTxTiOFSyYFfrxBFk4uIxSueOfpQllTXvOgC0hFxjjq9IeBAOF4rJDa7RHyaWbMh1INq6jB7s3IITvsL1rjvBUwVhEhsK1ndfGLhKViw48hf9-wWonFjIiqIPYFsRTAH4Htni8gil/s1596/copy%202.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1436" data-original-width="1596" height="360" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiC_GMK105t0vl6fPQBnmWVfrn5ZO1Y_zrvRnCS8lCggN1gs9RpTxTiOFSyYFfrxBFk4uIxSueOfpQllTXvOgC0hFxjjq9IeBAOF4rJDa7RHyaWbMh1INq6jB7s3IITvsL1rjvBUwVhEhsK1ndfGLhKViw48hf9-wWonFjIiqIPYFsRTAH4Htni8gil/w400-h360/copy%202.jpg" width="400" /></a></div> Wow again, and again, what circumstances they must have faced.<br /><p>Seward D., <i>The Hundred Years War - The English In France 1337-1453, </i>Penguin Books, London, 1978.</p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><br /><p><br /></p><p><br /></p>The Jones Genealogisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08384328568699198104noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3013504526338970882.post-26858464017529762992024-02-11T03:30:00.000-08:002024-02-11T03:30:40.507-08:00Questions Along The Way<p> Many branches of my Jones surname family tree have been discussed beginning with Inigo Jones 1650's [December 15, 2021]. You might think of this blog as a book and, each post is a page in the book of my tree climbing. Only in this book, instead of page numbers, things are stored by dates written month, day, and then year of posting. From cows to Celts, then Romans, then Monks, to deciding to flop down in all those hills and valleys. Who would have thought. </p><p> All this tree climbing has raised a lot of questions along my families' journeys. Are there any questions or comments you might have out there regarding the clusters of branches and twists knotted about? Use the comment section at the bottom of any post (page) dealing with a topic/subject. You know, anyone can climb out their own family tree. Besides, that Jones surname is buried just about under every rock along the way. </p><p> See post of November 12, 2010 [We Are The Chosen]. If this post brings a tear to your eye, you are ready to get going!</p>The Jones Genealogisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08384328568699198104noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3013504526338970882.post-73069076315577056442024-02-05T06:54:00.000-08:002024-02-05T06:54:09.116-08:00Enough Already<p> By this time in my Jones surname family tree (1300 A.D.), many in the branches had to be thinking better days have to be ahead, cause things could not get any worse. Many sleepless nights around the kitchen table hearing many family stories about past days swimming around that sea of troubles. [post 1 Dec. 2023] Being reminded many times how my name Llewelyn (JL-1) was past down to me. All these new overlords demanding conduct against our very way of life. Enough is enough! Not!</p><p> The next century brought a whole bunch of troubles yet to shake the family tree. At first, it was hoped the new supreme overlord Edward II (1307- 1327 A.D.), titled "Prince of Wales", would help us out. Then all the other overlords started steeping on one another's toes and kicking one another in the shins. Across the Channel things started getting out of hand [The Hundred Years War, starting around 1337] after our Prince of Wales lost his life at Berkley Castle whose family would connect to my Jones surname family in that yet to come Virginia colony. But first, the darkest days are yet to come.</p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj1wE3K5NHhrU8ljFguzQ9nUiQ_ei2xkeDOUbvAoyWd6YN67RkcTcipvZb4axW2AdHe9b1cbHepV_U-0dE_SJBN7XesQrWqpKgQJMqwCE_vW_wtSACBnSKEM8F69BwWsJNRi294HaMbENYpRtbLv7BxbWD6KAufGTwIpzxE-ore8-7Chhdges3p4e2X/s4857/File160.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="4857" data-original-width="3157" height="640" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj1wE3K5NHhrU8ljFguzQ9nUiQ_ei2xkeDOUbvAoyWd6YN67RkcTcipvZb4axW2AdHe9b1cbHepV_U-0dE_SJBN7XesQrWqpKgQJMqwCE_vW_wtSACBnSKEM8F69BwWsJNRi294HaMbENYpRtbLv7BxbWD6KAufGTwIpzxE-ore8-7Chhdges3p4e2X/w416-h640/File160.jpg" width="416" /></a></div> The above is the cover of my copy discussing this hallway of time. It was published 1978. In his Forward, Desmond Seward (born in Pairs) quotes Sir John Hawkwood who lived during this time, "Do you not know that I live by war and that peace would be my undoing". What a way to live. Enough already!<div><br /></div><div>Seward D., <i>The Hundred Years War, The English In France 1337 - 1453</i>, Penguin Group, N.Y., 1978.<br /><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p></div>The Jones Genealogisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08384328568699198104noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3013504526338970882.post-79445371962815279162024-02-01T18:10:00.000-08:002024-02-12T15:07:07.270-08:00Daily Living<p> Mowing grass, ranking leaves, shoveling snow, and pulling weeds are some of the seasonal activities expected living in my part of the world. The garbage goes out Wednesday night for Thursday pick-up, the water bill is due by the tenth of each month and, taxes from the city and county are paid at the beginning of the year. On and on it goes with school tax, property tax, sales tax, car tax, and any other taxes that folks in charge can contemplate. What in the world one would think. Well, just imagine what day to day living would have been in 1300 A.D.</p><p> Those in charge were considered "overlords". The supreme overlord sat upon what was conceptualized as "The Throne" and under accepted theory owned all the land that folks of the day lived [or survived upon]. You had to mow his grass, plant and harvest his fields, milk his cows, and every other task he so desired. The system that was brought over to the neighborhood by the French speaking Normans and, their Marcher Lords, came to be called "feudalism". Of course, you had to go along to get along. </p><p> The best text describing the origin and introduction of this concept to the hallways of history is by two French folks, Jean-Pierre Poly and Eric Bournazel. First published in French (1980), an English translation was published in 1991. The cover of my copy is shown.</p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgT3nJKAdNJcEranbTdO2iUjYLre3_nkfcSK_9JSjHSCSfUhTtJWEsV812cbvBy2RI2Jeealu5JHE8GJ0oW0OPeFz7SrC_sdgpJLqpSo-I-EIXHTPBJrTwcWVPiESC5lWtzOcjs7ojhMNifJ7PtIflIuVEqodJYppYl0wFFAL61kfnrPUR1Qz15Myu0/s5405/File89.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="5405" data-original-width="3651" height="400" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgT3nJKAdNJcEranbTdO2iUjYLre3_nkfcSK_9JSjHSCSfUhTtJWEsV812cbvBy2RI2Jeealu5JHE8GJ0oW0OPeFz7SrC_sdgpJLqpSo-I-EIXHTPBJrTwcWVPiESC5lWtzOcjs7ojhMNifJ7PtIflIuVEqodJYppYl0wFFAL61kfnrPUR1Qz15Myu0/w270-h400/File89.jpg" width="270" /></a></div> "Seigneuries" was the new word on my vocabulary list. It meant the territory under the government of a feudal lord. Let's see now, the Norman folks who dug-in all sorts of places among my ancestors family's land, claimed all the territory they had come to occupy by force of arms. This land become their new governmental territory. They were the feudal lord, with no buts and or otherwise! <div> Daily life would certainly change from the common law of the kindred, to this new law of the feudal lord. </div><div><br /></div><div>The above text was translated by Caroline Higgitt and published by Holmes & Meier Publishers, Inc. N.Y., 1991.<br /><p><br /></p></div>The Jones Genealogisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08384328568699198104noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3013504526338970882.post-50167583933875456232024-01-22T14:00:00.000-08:002024-01-22T14:00:47.898-08:00New Rules and New Rulers<p> Subordination to a higher authority can bring about all kinds of changes to the home front. For my ancestors, following the Statute of Rhuddlan 1284, changes were introduced in what became the new areas called <u>Flint</u> [Tegeingl and Maelor Saesneg], <u>Denbigh</u> [Ros and Rhufoniog], <u>Rhuthun</u> [Cantref of Dyffryn Clawyd], and <u>Bromfield & Yale</u> [Maelor Gymraeg]. A new governmental framework was established involving the institution of "English" criminal law to what was the families' common law. The focus here are the Maelors since Tudor Trevor (JC-1) was recognized as the founder of "The tribe of the Marches" where the Maelors played a central role. </p><p> Let's see now. New fellows named "Sheriffs" were appointed to administer each of these new named areas. They were to collect rents and new taxes owed to the new "Lord Paramount" which was conceived as the "The Crown". Sheriffs were to supervise local officials and, hold a court once a month [Juries introduced]. The IRS [Exchequer at Westminster] held the purse strings but, local jurisdiction was considered legitimate authority. A solemn treaty it was announced. From "Common Law" to "State Law" was the main change of concept thus, providing an order and tranquility to that wild and free way of living among all the family. (Hywel Dda would certainly have something to say about all these changes.)</p><p> "Movables" (inheritances) was to remain under common law and, land disputes could be solved by the local folks. Since the family moved to Llwyn-Onn, Iorwerth Fychan (JI-1) [see post of 28 August 2023], until Llewelyn (JL-1), who was named after Llywelyn (II) [who died 11 December 1282], the family had already made a number of adjustments to the mindset. For example, there were new ways of survival (post 11 Oct 2023 "Food & Fleece") and self-sufficiency (post 20 Nov 2023). A new network of connectors were established as discussed in post of 23 Sept 2023 ("Highroads"). The family then faced a series of ground shaking events and a series of tidal waves [see post 1 Dec 2023 ("Sea of Troubles") and, 6 Jan 2024 ("Shifting Sands")]! Then Howel (JM-1) had to submit to a new authority with a whole bunch of new horizons to face.</p><p> Hum...the "Hundred Years War" 1337-1453, the battle of Calais 1346, the "Black Death" 1350, and the battle of Poitiers 1356, were all about to hit the fan under this new prerogative of "The Crown"... new rules and new Rulers, what can one say.</p><p>For review: family tree from Iorwerth Fychan (JI-1) to Howel (JM-1). All marked with blue color.</p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjD1zsYvc9-ruAyf5xEgnwy8qCbqXgqIouTNEr2N2nRT-PXSdYinGveqRRgqwsWmv51EHXdsrIJPMCp4MadVhiYV_VSqZuZbgCpFEu7fTDwzfAWuilor64qKdUxT-2VtOaD-bd7hRtwoxEpSwtNT84Sjv9lMtEWVdn9p1wkHDSfByhhWychxStlaXQ_/s3156/Image2.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="2374" data-original-width="3156" height="301" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjD1zsYvc9-ruAyf5xEgnwy8qCbqXgqIouTNEr2N2nRT-PXSdYinGveqRRgqwsWmv51EHXdsrIJPMCp4MadVhiYV_VSqZuZbgCpFEu7fTDwzfAWuilor64qKdUxT-2VtOaD-bd7hRtwoxEpSwtNT84Sjv9lMtEWVdn9p1wkHDSfByhhWychxStlaXQ_/w400-h301/Image2.jpg" width="400" /></a></div><br /><p><br /></p>The Jones Genealogisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08384328568699198104noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3013504526338970882.post-64195125750762329802024-01-12T15:14:00.000-08:002024-01-12T15:14:12.985-08:00Panorama<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: justify;"> Just look at it. A mental picture of the earliest branches of my Jones surname family tree. Color coded it is. </div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEghcv6uTRTCvreu36hPn9IIUiCpRxIKNoPbnJJ5MQ0VUww92HxUzAQCLqFR2S8jbiBcuPX3JeUGBT60cVLMRrjOrk9bImFmJ1L0sCoYNDMszv9CoM3cvD6uNnOgSwie84oopxpPshSSlC_la-qgw7wbx1AblTZfbK94oGWjXz9WElPmntZwBPJLY6W_/s3114/Image39.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="2374" data-original-width="3114" height="305" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEghcv6uTRTCvreu36hPn9IIUiCpRxIKNoPbnJJ5MQ0VUww92HxUzAQCLqFR2S8jbiBcuPX3JeUGBT60cVLMRrjOrk9bImFmJ1L0sCoYNDMszv9CoM3cvD6uNnOgSwie84oopxpPshSSlC_la-qgw7wbx1AblTZfbK94oGWjXz9WElPmntZwBPJLY6W_/w400-h305/Image39.jpg" width="400" /></a></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg7NRAHQgvL6_yttyCeDNbUQIbypX00MV_C-H5EyT9UnPJp3DmRJA88n3nQOA_ddZl807_RSoi57Ptv17hBJ-93TvSyFLtsokCkMik5EUbAUVnORgWsDblWXDygZ5m8L9mto9Vcl-QZiKZJOMeozRIHDIs4qTRX0dZitbERGR8rb0cu-utq5fqF5T92/s3176/Image47.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="2380" data-original-width="3176" height="300" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg7NRAHQgvL6_yttyCeDNbUQIbypX00MV_C-H5EyT9UnPJp3DmRJA88n3nQOA_ddZl807_RSoi57Ptv17hBJ-93TvSyFLtsokCkMik5EUbAUVnORgWsDblWXDygZ5m8L9mto9Vcl-QZiKZJOMeozRIHDIs4qTRX0dZitbERGR8rb0cu-utq5fqF5T92/w400-h300/Image47.jpg" width="400" /></a></div> From Gadforch (JA-1) at the top, to the ninth generations down the branches (JI) and, all those folks in-between are presented. How do you say "Wow"! Tudor Trevor (JC-1) starts things out with a bang, realizing his wife Angharad (JC-2) was the daughter of that law giver Hywel. Three sons and a daughter come next branching out in all directions. While exploring all the branches, a few key items should be noted.<div><br /></div><div> First, Tudor Trevor (JC-1) had a brother. Ynyr Frych (JC-3) was his name and, his identity has not been recognized prior to all this tree climbing. He was described as Abbot of Dore Abby (Adad Dor) in the "Golden Valley" Hereford. </div><div> </div><div> The second item to note is that Gronwy (JD-1), eldest son of Tudor Trevor (JC-1), had as heir a daughter Rhingor (JE-3). She married a fellow named Cynelyn (JE-6), which of all things produced a son Ethelystan Glodrydd (JF-6) who is discussed at some lengths among the many pages yet to come down the hallways of history. Royal Tribe IV of Wales is his beginning [Between the Wye and Severn]. </div><div> Close by, the second son of Tudor Trevor (JC-1), Llydocya (JD-2), also had a daughter Gweyrl (JE-7) who married a fellow named Ednowain ap Bradwen (JE-8), who founded Noble Tribe XV in Merioneth. In addition, a son of Llydocya (JD-2), Llywarch Gam (JE-4) [meaning crooked footstep], leads a significant branch down to the noted individual Rhys Sais (JG-4), who married Eva (JG-3) a daughter of Cynrig (JF-1), making Rhys Sais (JG-4), a son-in-law to the fellow who is remembered as being killed 1073 A.D. Whew, can you follow all that? He was in direct line to my branch through Dingad (JD-3)! </div><div><br /></div><div> Also note, the line of Dingad (JD-3) married into the oldest brother's line Efa (JH18) to Jeuaf (JH-1). The second son's line also joined in with Eva (JG-3) to Rhys Sais ( JG-4).</div><div> </div><div> It was Dingad (JD-3) who was the baby of the family. Little did he know that a future branch of his family tree would be identified by the saying of all others, "Keep Up With The Joneses". </div>The Jones Genealogisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08384328568699198104noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3013504526338970882.post-79843404963837675002024-01-10T18:07:00.000-08:002024-01-10T18:07:56.563-08:00A Page...or Two<p> Saving and storing all that family tree stuff can present all kinds of decisions. How does one begin and how does one finish? You can imagine that after a few generations things can get a bit crowed and all clumped together. A coding systems has been discussed [post of 9 March 2023] and offers a way to keep each family member identifiable from all others who might clog up the branches. Putting things together in a paper format may also be another way to help keep things organized. The following copy of my coding system placed on paper is shown.</p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgRY6V5pr0tZrIf9dobWpm4oLlON_0QphPIyUXhqk0jrjyzrUrKrVnEj5clSc5PgxaZksKQe-SITjNWJ2QkNK-KYQVpCqXRvk1gfz920GJQ9UBC1xHKKzMpBKykpV-S5-eOyUxdkaFGrTnDja9unJ-_HzM3vU1FCIlPDMVhNhyphenhyphenzcptw_4oxOnp6dD44/s3105/File3.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="3105" data-original-width="2276" height="640" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgRY6V5pr0tZrIf9dobWpm4oLlON_0QphPIyUXhqk0jrjyzrUrKrVnEj5clSc5PgxaZksKQe-SITjNWJ2QkNK-KYQVpCqXRvk1gfz920GJQ9UBC1xHKKzMpBKykpV-S5-eOyUxdkaFGrTnDja9unJ-_HzM3vU1FCIlPDMVhNhyphenhyphenzcptw_4oxOnp6dD44/w470-h640/File3.jpg" width="470" /></a></div><br /><p> Now remember, the capital letter of the English alphabet represents the surname of the individual putting the family tree together. For my surname Jones it would be "J". Any future note or document having an individual starting their code with a "J" would always be of my Jones surname family. The second capital letter would represent the generation that this individual would belong. The first of course would be "A" if starting at the top of the family tree. Thus JA would mean an individual belonging to the first generation from the top. Thus, B=second, C=third and so on down the branches for at least 26 generations! Next, the JA followed by "-", then a number would indicate the place that this individual holds within that generation. Thus, JA-1 would mean the named individual was the first to be located among this generation by the one doing all the searching. By way of remembering from previous posts, the next figure shows the coding system as presented by my drawings.</p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj83DPT_yuHQasBwEl3P8LwICtyWpoyhyphenhyphenbInLeY-66u82TTUjZKlcm-ERt1DxuAd-SGoqH4CRMugrpyIKe39HutOiG9RhJThXGA1tLl7PftgBZJBsPHWl4eAOdBvdhoxZc4K-vb_mBXYaM7nfH_2vSLrTB5RukS9CgNlH2ySxbPdvKulIP24nQfCtfk/s3114/File5.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="3114" data-original-width="2130" height="640" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj83DPT_yuHQasBwEl3P8LwICtyWpoyhyphenhyphenbInLeY-66u82TTUjZKlcm-ERt1DxuAd-SGoqH4CRMugrpyIKe39HutOiG9RhJThXGA1tLl7PftgBZJBsPHWl4eAOdBvdhoxZc4K-vb_mBXYaM7nfH_2vSLrTB5RukS9CgNlH2ySxbPdvKulIP24nQfCtfk/w438-h640/File5.jpg" width="438" /></a></div><br /><p> Starting at the top fellow colored blue, JA-1 = Gadforch. He is the first of my great...great...grandfathers starting from the top of my family tree. His wife JA-2= name unknown for now, but if discovered at a later date, she already has a place among the branches. The son JB-1 = Ynyr, a good Celtic name (see post 31 March 2023). His wife Rhiengar of Hereford =JB-2 is listed and, on down the connected line can be followed. JC-1= Tudor Trevor (see post 27 April 2023), then coming to Dingad JD-3 the baby of this generation. My page shown first above at this generation [the D generation or 4th in line down from the top] list all family members identified as to this date 6/15/2011. You can see this expands the number of individuals as the increasing of branches are applied. The JE generation grows larger in number and you can imagine how each following generation would multiply. Several hundred of folks are listed in some of the generations sharing the same number of branches along the way. </p><p> Also note you can add additional comments important to recall for future tree climbers. My specific grandfather line is underlined. It certainly might take a page or two.</p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><span style="text-align: left;"> </span></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><span style="text-align: left;"> </span></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><span style="text-align: left;"><br /></span></div><div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><br /><div><br /><div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><br /><div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div></div></div></div></div>The Jones Genealogisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08384328568699198104noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3013504526338970882.post-8736512053643001462024-01-07T04:33:00.000-08:002024-01-07T04:33:57.314-08:00Consider History<p> </p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhZrhcrXTJAt80qAV0eLeOyJ85TvSzvxZF_4rtEo-emvxkOibYEdkTJzU7K8wBwT8EIEKZKZWzZD3smsymyNcNfcBXIqtzBJ6cjor4-8P4dP9y1NxSZGF6aLzzlCLBKYPDBofVsMJmoaH8J0XFNij0vJ951fO0_gLadAgh0M05W8RJvZcSSEfhHsM8Y/s1713/poem.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1713" data-original-width="1001" height="640" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhZrhcrXTJAt80qAV0eLeOyJ85TvSzvxZF_4rtEo-emvxkOibYEdkTJzU7K8wBwT8EIEKZKZWzZD3smsymyNcNfcBXIqtzBJ6cjor4-8P4dP9y1NxSZGF6aLzzlCLBKYPDBofVsMJmoaH8J0XFNij0vJ951fO0_gLadAgh0M05W8RJvZcSSEfhHsM8Y/w374-h640/poem.jpg" width="374" /></a></div> From London, 1861. <p></p>The Jones Genealogisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08384328568699198104noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3013504526338970882.post-78221008638760481162024-01-06T07:41:00.000-08:002024-01-17T17:04:01.382-08:00Shifting Sands<p> Waves tossed sporadically upon the shorelines of the ocean of troubles. My Jones family would have certainly been bounced about many times during this corridor of time. No dry land around this place and, it would be hard to find a dry spot anywhere. Walking in any direction would be a challenge. </p><p> Let's see now, Llywelyn "The Great" died 11 April 1240 A.D. He lost his head after a few title waves hit his sands of time. Then his son Dafydd, lost even more of his body parts 25 February 1246. Treaty of Woodstock arrived 1247 giving some respite to the height of waves. Then, Henry III granted Llywelyn "The Last" some respect with the Treaty of Montgomery 1267 AD. Then after that fellow named "Longshanks" (Edward I) Tsunami'd his way on shore, the first war wave 1276-1277 A.D. began. Then, the Treaty of Aberconway (Conway) 1277 A.D. was followed by the second tsunami of war 1282-1283 A.D., giving rise to The Statute of Rhuddlan 1284. [Llywelyn "The Last" died 11 December 1282] "Divine Providence" old Longshanks would write. Little did he realize, he was just part of the shifting sands.</p><p> Reference for the above events can be found in the first text used in many of my tree climbing adventures and, a copy still lives in one of the most useful research notebooks numbered #1. [For a discussion of my research notebooks see [ https://tjgresearchnotebooks.blogspot.com ]. </p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhpCrU76_2i7rc90JHqjiKw7-BLsL7XzzZNk6UE-nBbm1PHLHfSLLgK8ogL4MIhkmboZ23C3EZHgb3nWDQeBsNm_y4edO5BObIT539LHc6j0gzRqnRWkus9A1q30nnFdZlQhDmVxxT56ZdOTRpo0AwkrnEATpbFbL4UH9yNJOXE9DGpBxX74vOcPP9V/s2743/img091.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="2743" data-original-width="2030" height="640" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhpCrU76_2i7rc90JHqjiKw7-BLsL7XzzZNk6UE-nBbm1PHLHfSLLgK8ogL4MIhkmboZ23C3EZHgb3nWDQeBsNm_y4edO5BObIT539LHc6j0gzRqnRWkus9A1q30nnFdZlQhDmVxxT56ZdOTRpo0AwkrnEATpbFbL4UH9yNJOXE9DGpBxX74vOcPP9V/w474-h640/img091.jpg" width="474" /></a></div>Llywelyn The Great 1234 (plate 39), Treaty of Woodstock (plate 40), Treaty of Montgomery 1267 (plate 36), First War Welsh Independence 1276-1277 (plate 42), Treaty of Aberconway 1277 (plate 43), Second War Independence (plate 44), and The Statute Rhuddlan 1284 (plate 45).<br /><p><br /></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhURm-0jC-tYRPea3QLGeTrOsQAPnC_MdyCnqXsPjo_U1xekU6wipUM1zKm6caf56H29AdgkhrncSC_wOpuQ8T_OOShODoaYNHHRwn0_git91siJd-TyiMQllNyGZ0gJ3k10UEmrZWgkZeydPfVMIrBKIGt0ugiyN8oSQYXjYGcKFCgIBLxoZsD-DbE/s3920/w.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="3920" data-original-width="2993" height="640" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhURm-0jC-tYRPea3QLGeTrOsQAPnC_MdyCnqXsPjo_U1xekU6wipUM1zKm6caf56H29AdgkhrncSC_wOpuQ8T_OOShODoaYNHHRwn0_git91siJd-TyiMQllNyGZ0gJ3k10UEmrZWgkZeydPfVMIrBKIGt0ugiyN8oSQYXjYGcKFCgIBLxoZsD-DbE/w488-h640/w.jpg" width="488" /></a></div>From <i>The Fates of the Princes of Dyfed,</i> by Cenydd Morus, Illustrations by R. Machell published 1914.<br /><p><br /></p>The Jones Genealogisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08384328568699198104noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3013504526338970882.post-29727366686004819282023-12-27T14:11:00.000-08:002023-12-27T14:11:02.545-08:00Indispensable<p> After a sea of troubles (post 1 Dec.), and multiple stone tsunamis (post 9 Dec.), somehow that Jones surname DNA got passed down the many generations yet to come. My amazement and thankfulness continues but, how'd they do that keeps coming to mind. Something special must have been one of the keys. Well, maybe several things played a role.</p><p> Salt and lead would top my list. In and around Cheshire, Shropshire and the vale of Clwyd, the Deceangli managed to handle this production and they must have kept all the techniques to themselves. Since Roman days, these needs would have been great for all folks. [Documentation has been presented in the book by Jones and Mattingly pp.179-232 discussed post 3 June 2022]. A considerable mining complex existed [Halkyn Mountain] including lead pigs (bars) with "Deceangli" stamped on the side [p. 184 same book]. </p><p> Cattle, sheep, grain, and land to keep these items up and running would also be high on my list. Lots of grass and lots of grain would be needed. The Cornovii [a joint source of my DNA], even had a special place set aside. They would have handled all the wool and cloth production which most folks still needed to provide some Longjohns on those cold winter nights. </p><p> Essential personnel would seem to be part of their survival. Grass (highland) and grain (low land), indispensable among all the storms. Beef and meat to Wrexham and, sheep and wool to Oswestry it would have been. Keep those family fires (kiln) still burning [p. 205 same book].</p><p>P.S. Here are some of the family tree which have been discussed up to this window in time.. Thank you to all in these branches from my DNA to yours. Gadforch (JA-1) to Llewelyn (JL-1) and the other sons of Tudor Trevor (JC-1) are shown. My Jones line is marked in blue.</p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi42sFoCrXHRbcN_pllu3TDK1LgxFiKecFh7keO_VdM07LgaqmoapFSUOrTARLSoS34jMMZ9u6P1uKV5qTVKupNp4G4UgmHqxlmf4AnWB-4QSCjKG63Q7Ja2l7PYWWEQLfKEO3Kug4R8y5vpPbPD3ExPIb_kkDrscCZ_McpJpl58LDDBI6T146_H92U/s3406/File57.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="3406" data-original-width="2546" height="640" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi42sFoCrXHRbcN_pllu3TDK1LgxFiKecFh7keO_VdM07LgaqmoapFSUOrTARLSoS34jMMZ9u6P1uKV5qTVKupNp4G4UgmHqxlmf4AnWB-4QSCjKG63Q7Ja2l7PYWWEQLfKEO3Kug4R8y5vpPbPD3ExPIb_kkDrscCZ_McpJpl58LDDBI6T146_H92U/w478-h640/File57.jpg" width="478" /></a></div><br /><p><br /></p>The Jones Genealogisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08384328568699198104noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3013504526338970882.post-26151369156754664312023-12-21T06:50:00.000-08:002024-01-02T17:10:19.339-08:00Hundred Rolls - Greatest Inquests<p> Edward I was certainly a unique individual. A moto above his throne in 1274 in modern lingo might read, "No Lip, Off Nobody, No How". At any rate, one of his first actions was to investigate official malpractices among each local government (the shires). These were bailiffs, escheators, sheriffs, forgers, clipper of coins and the like who were using extortion and corruption to line their own pockets. This of course was to see that the rights and privileges of old Edward I was being followed correctly.</p><p> Local juries were formed in each hundred so that common folks (those being ripped off) could bring their charges. Oaths were sworn and a list of official wrongdoings were recorded for each county. These written accounts came to be called "Hundred Rolls". The first phase of this endeavor was taken 1274-1275 and, this is the date (1275) that is usually thought as its record of history. </p><p> However, there was a second series of records recorded in 1279 to document the rents and services (under feudal custom) owned to our Edward I. [sounds like collecting taxes]! All land held in demesne (manorial land actually possessed by the lord and not held by tenants) was to be evaluated for all lords, free tenants and, villeins whose lands valued over <i>f </i>20. Who held which land and by what feudal services were to be determined and owed to Edward I. [recovery and maintenance to the King]! </p><p> Now all this information has been given to present the first individual recorded in the English language with the surname JONES! Drum roll please... a female name <u>Matilda Jones</u>! After 30 years of research she was finally found in the Huntingdonshire Hundred Rolls of 1279. First discussed April 1, 2011, in my blog "The Jones Surname" [ https://thejonessurname.blogspot.com ] and again January 23, 2013, translated from the Latin, she was found to hold 4 acres of land and a half acre of orchard. She was required to pay an annual rent of 2 shillings, and provide a number of services to the Abbot of Thorney. This included help with harvest, milling, and hunting. Most likely the Abbot of Thorney, was located in Sibbington and, was a parish in the hundred of Norman-Cross. </p><p> Holy Mackerel, Matilda, the first with the surname JONES!</p><p>The reference for the Hundred Rolls is in the book by Michael Prestwich (see post 13 December, 2023) pages 92-98. Also discussed on pages 106, 235, 236, 258, 262, 291, 301, 406, and 560. Whew...a few pages indeed.</p>The Jones Genealogisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08384328568699198104noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3013504526338970882.post-69239837173354411292023-12-16T10:18:00.000-08:002024-01-02T17:13:19.526-08:00Many Years Later<p> Climbing one's family tree can get fairly complicated. Generations follow generations often knotting up the branches as one climbs about. Historical events along the way can be helpful to sort out some of the many difficulties facing the genealogist. Such is the case for my own Jones surname investigations.</p><p> During the historical events of the family [Iorweth Fychan JI-1, 1st of Llwyn-Onn ca. 1175 to Howel JM-1 <i>fl</i> 1360 ] a number of individuals came into view that were to have significant impact on unraveling prominent knots in my family tree. Most genealogists call these knots "brick walls" and, a discussion of this phenomena can be found at:</p><p> https://thebrickwallprotocol.blogspot.com.</p><p> Anyway, two historical figures and their families come into play during this window of time (1155 A.D. - 1305 A.D.].</p><p> Edward I had declared war 1276 A.D. (see last post) and, his right hand man was a fellow named Reginal de Grey. He was appointed Justiciar of Chester in 1277 A.D. and was suppose to teach all those rebels English Law. In 1282 A.D. he was placed in control of Ruthin Castle and, new towns around Ruthan were begun. Now remember, this was just above my family at Llwyn-Onn and would have been a major factor in their survival. The de Grey family would be involved in many actions yet to come.</p><p> A second gentleman to play a major role was Richard Fitzalan, known as Earl of Arundel. He was considered a leading Marcher Lord of the day and, his family controlled much land around Oswestry. This is the front door to the Vale of Dee where Tudor Trevor (JC-1) was born!</p><p> Needless to say, for many generations yet to arrive, these two families were closely connected to the family tree...many years later.</p><p> A discussion of the FitzAlan family indexed as "fitz Alan family, of Clun and Oswestry" p. 587 can be found in the helpful book by David Carpenter <i>The Struggle for Mastery</i> as shown, first published 2003.</p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgl26bvIxg7qanklhqiC_GJjZIP9KyiSPG8Faef6YDtxiGcPjaCQPjmS1x86BKlw23U28n_duMvuP42W-_hb-wjiKGc9NOw4nlRZO4MBMJ3-9_fx1BI5CpTBWxqWCunih-iL_2wJJnUp_VdYWun0Awq7beK5ZuJmZTlXCv_-khB4BgzsUUDOt7pVLcy/s4620/File133.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="4620" data-original-width="2883" height="640" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgl26bvIxg7qanklhqiC_GJjZIP9KyiSPG8Faef6YDtxiGcPjaCQPjmS1x86BKlw23U28n_duMvuP42W-_hb-wjiKGc9NOw4nlRZO4MBMJ3-9_fx1BI5CpTBWxqWCunih-iL_2wJJnUp_VdYWun0Awq7beK5ZuJmZTlXCv_-khB4BgzsUUDOt7pVLcy/w400-h640/File133.jpg" width="400" /></a></div> A discussion of Reginald de Grey, indexed under Grey p. 606, in the text by Michael Prestwich was shown last post.<br /><p><br /></p>The Jones Genealogisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08384328568699198104noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3013504526338970882.post-81028715181379497972023-12-13T08:08:00.000-08:002023-12-13T08:08:13.335-08:00Dig Way Down To Build Way Up<p> It was difficult enough for my Jones surname ancestors to survive all those Norman-French speakers. They were the ones who dug the trenches, who pilled up all that dirt, and who cut down all those trees to plant those motte and bailey things all over the place. Just a few months to build and, they were not going away on their own accord. Needless to say, they were just a shadow of things to come.</p><p> Military Cathedrals to their god of war they could be called. Stone upon stone, taking years to build. A fellow named Edward I built 10 to his delight. The first three were started in 1283 and the last in 1295. Lots and lots of folks were needed after a good looking rocky crag near the sea was chosen. Hum, lets see...for one stone edifice you would need diggers (115), masons (227), wood cutters, carpenters (22), smiths (30), quarriers (115) and lots and lots of laborers and other workers (546). This story is told in some detail in the book by Michael Prestwich.</p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjTKO_FYxhGHZ63Tvfuoc2WFfcmZhdqyAKww3PDjvw12UcywJuEKqRMAdkja8YuektLRuVR-oBTfbZ2MZ7Lh-g26r0CCqiWOaaXf404ZPju1_42OvrqQIXl32QTRHGmD3QKvn8lS-M7mJEhVxtZCLhg8oAcRyxqnhxjVHPp71ct8xiPnfzlI9cDMn7x/s5533/File110.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="5533" data-original-width="3651" height="640" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjTKO_FYxhGHZ63Tvfuoc2WFfcmZhdqyAKww3PDjvw12UcywJuEKqRMAdkja8YuektLRuVR-oBTfbZ2MZ7Lh-g26r0CCqiWOaaXf404ZPju1_42OvrqQIXl32QTRHGmD3QKvn8lS-M7mJEhVxtZCLhg8oAcRyxqnhxjVHPp71ct8xiPnfzlI9cDMn7x/w422-h640/File110.jpg" width="422" /></a></div><br /><p> On pages 112 and 113 he shows the ground plans for six of these castles giving a good idea of how much stone it would have taken. Now, a little closer look at this stone!</p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgMT2DjZA1yf5Zu1BfRRgONMueHPWnE7NHf77I7lfzMnvcUOG2TAvuBAJ-SJQFIPlR3NOZS9blgLgx_RPBCePWOIUjItf4YUI4rOYmDwpczB8-U9F2jiz-VFeExnDU_84PXNJiVBIQIB6yrD8IaHS8G9Spw8eu-VfuHcqbrIHTP2BXepmbVoleJZ1-Z/s3252/img090.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="3252" data-original-width="2207" height="640" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgMT2DjZA1yf5Zu1BfRRgONMueHPWnE7NHf77I7lfzMnvcUOG2TAvuBAJ-SJQFIPlR3NOZS9blgLgx_RPBCePWOIUjItf4YUI4rOYmDwpczB8-U9F2jiz-VFeExnDU_84PXNJiVBIQIB6yrD8IaHS8G9Spw8eu-VfuHcqbrIHTP2BXepmbVoleJZ1-Z/w434-h640/img090.jpg" width="434" /></a></div><br /><p> You would certainly have to dig way down to build way up.</p><p>Helpful References for this period of my families' history.</p><p>Prestwich, M., <i>Edward I</i>, Yale University Press, New Haven and London, 1988.</p><p>Robinson, D., <i>Heritage In Wales</i>, Queen Anne Press, London, 1989.</p><p>Kightly, C., <i>Strongholds Of The Realm</i>, Thames and Hudson, London, 1979.</p><p>The Wales Tourist Board 1982, The Automobile Association 1982, <i>Castles In Wales</i>. See last post.</p>The Jones Genealogisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08384328568699198104noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3013504526338970882.post-608917026494859812023-12-09T14:17:00.000-08:002023-12-09T14:17:46.041-08:00Stone Tsunami(s)<p> Tossing waves to-and-fro continued the foment surrounding the family trying to stay afloat in this sea of troubles. Grandfathers Gruffydd (JJ-1), Iorwerth (JK-1) and, Llewelyn (JL-1) certainly had their survival life-vest afloat but, none of them could have forecasted the threshold of irritation that was about to erupt. A fellow named Llywelyn "The Last" took overruling most of the northern part of Wales [where Llwyn-Onn was located]. This was after the death of Llywelyn "The First" in 1240 A.D. and, Henry III had a few things to say. It was the Treaty of Woodstock (30 April 1247) which forced Llywelyn "The Last" to recognize English Law. Needless to say, Llywelyn "The Last" put the shoe on his foot and, in 1258 was styled "Prince of Wales" by Henry III. By 1267 with the Peace of Montgomery, Llywelyn "The Last" was recognized "Sovereign of Wales" just before the death of Henry III in 1272.</p><p> Now, a new sovereign of England arrived on the scene, being out of the country until 1274. This Edward I (1272-1307) took his new job very seriously and, he expected all of his anticipated subjects to pay their homage [a ceremony by which a man acknowledges himself the vassal of a lord]. You can imagine how the older Llywelyn "The Last" [age 51 compared to 37 years] who had received his sovereignty, from the very father of this new sovereign [Edward I], when he [Llywelyn "The Last"] had been summoned to Montgomery to give homage. This was the very location Llywelyn "The Last" had been declared sovereign of Wales in 1267. Nothing doing says Llywelyn "The Last", including at the coronation of Edward I 1274, the summons to Shrewsbury 1274, to Chester in August 1275, to West Minister October 1275, and, finally to Winchester January 1276 and April 1276. Can you feel it? The threshold of irritation was about to erupt, like a great volcano, as a declaration of war was issued by Edward I November 1276. Up, up, and away to a series of earthquakes (invasions) starting 1276 and lasting until 1296. This volcanic eruption, followed by a series of earthquakes, brought into existence a great stone tsunami(s) described best in the following:</p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgOwz3fKFqCZ1oCvrIUYmKP-pVxUgbj6uS_6pmNz9oPIyVG1CEaJyIBdSVL4NN8meANqaJ-VivpkOO_0aak8rYNq8uMDhkGPxb2R_0VfGukqtlT_93CtWnGjI-phmbSxGy9ktRXE_9w_oZryH4r0NyiEVmKnrAYcXHPOH79aAhIeHoWps87NxYfojCm/s6920/File128.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="6920" data-original-width="5076" height="640" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgOwz3fKFqCZ1oCvrIUYmKP-pVxUgbj6uS_6pmNz9oPIyVG1CEaJyIBdSVL4NN8meANqaJ-VivpkOO_0aak8rYNq8uMDhkGPxb2R_0VfGukqtlT_93CtWnGjI-phmbSxGy9ktRXE_9w_oZryH4r0NyiEVmKnrAYcXHPOH79aAhIeHoWps87NxYfojCm/w470-h640/File128.jpg" width="470" /></a></div> Each stone tsunami raised a wave of conquest that was to change the life of those still swimming around during this ocean of time. Some of the stones are still standing to this day.<br /><p><br /></p>The Jones Genealogisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08384328568699198104noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3013504526338970882.post-50322521431961961972023-12-01T10:46:00.000-08:002023-12-01T10:46:55.734-08:00Sea Of Troubles<p> Day after day, week after week, month after month, and yes, even year after year, swimming around in a sea of troubles would require a very strong life-vest. Jeuaf (JH-1) was facing all kinds of trouble from Henry I (1100-1135 A.D.) including the battle of Llangollan (1132 A.D.) when the last ruler of Powys [Madgog ap Maredudd] allied with the Normans. Then came Stephen (1135-1155 A.D.) when at the battle of Coleshill (1149 A.D.) a fellow named William fitz Alan took over Oswestry, which was right in the middle of the family's front door. Then Henry II (1155-1189 A.D.) was pronounced by Pope Adrain IV, by a Papal Bull [formal statement from the Pope], to have authority to rule Scotland, Ireland, and Wales! An invasion wave hit the shores between 1158 - 1165 A.D. and old Henry and his forces took control of Tegeingl [part of families' original lands]. By this wave, grandfather... Iorweth Fychan (JI-1) was moving the family to Llwyn-Onn, just before Richard I (1189 - 1199 A.D.) and his favorite son John (1199 - 1216 A.D.), had "Llywellyn the Great" give homage to John and to marry his daughter Joan! Whew...gulp...gulp...but not enough!</p><p> At age nine, Henry III (1216 - 1272 A.D.) found himself in authority (of England) under the regent William Marshall [Earl of Pembroke = Southwestern Wales]. In 1220, the rule of primogeniture was granted to the wishes of Llywellyn ap Iorwerth [The Great] being the English way of passing down the kingship. The Treaty of Woodstock, 30 April 1249, declared English Law to be recognized in Wales. Gruffydd (JJ-1) was born by this time in Llwyn-Onn who was named after a previous Gruffydd [Gruffydd ap Llywelyn] who lost his head swimming around these rough waters. Finally, it was our Llewelyn (JK-1) after the Peace of Montgomery (1267 A.D.) who was about to face the "Perfect Storm" yet to arrive among all these "Sea of Troubles".</p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjsjY8soyk2Dv_l2-DDt62tEbz7f0orUUSTjCoLbm_fA1VU_TFwlvjMVAeaYtpzcoW054GTydE29wm3BFebAEOr3cHg2B-T415KCXB1j9QrQU6a1TBA2wFpWutlTwmLsrZV_84niW7yewvEjrirQB4B_zPLcfWR40oRwxOhYiIpG6p-qs4JMgBhx0iV/s4839/File120.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="4839" data-original-width="3176" height="640" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjsjY8soyk2Dv_l2-DDt62tEbz7f0orUUSTjCoLbm_fA1VU_TFwlvjMVAeaYtpzcoW054GTydE29wm3BFebAEOr3cHg2B-T415KCXB1j9QrQU6a1TBA2wFpWutlTwmLsrZV_84niW7yewvEjrirQB4B_zPLcfWR40oRwxOhYiIpG6p-qs4JMgBhx0iV/w420-h640/File120.jpg" width="420" /></a></div><p><br /></p><p><br /></p>The Jones Genealogisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08384328568699198104noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3013504526338970882.post-17827050630725897822023-11-20T06:03:00.000-08:002023-11-20T06:03:51.921-08:00Self-Sufficient<p> Continuing one's family tree down the hallways of time would seem top priority for those still active among the branches. Sharing this activity with others among the leaves would help cluster the resources thus, helping to improve strengths, decrease weaknesses and, share the responsibly of survival. Just how my Jones surname family tree managed the details of this endeavor during the next 15 generations at Llwyn-Onn still expands my wonderment. [Gruffydd (JJ-1) - John Jones (JP-1) and beyond]. Here are some issues along the way.</p><p>Henry II (1154-1189) - Invades Wales (1158-1165) [Iorweth Fychan (JI-1)]</p><p>John (1199-1216) - marries daughter to Llywelyn Fawr (1205) [Gruffydd (JJ-1)]</p><p>Henry III (1216-1272) - Rule of Primogeniture adopted (1226) [Llewelyn (JL-1)]</p><p> and the greatest threat yet to come! </p><p>Edward I (1272 - 1307) [Howel (JM-1)]! </p><p> Wow, how'd they do that? Somewhat self-sufficient I suppose.</p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjxMZRlRElBjZxqCFOjTZcSpYWpsUslwGF6t7hQ3YHIwe14rMUaZmLIV_50_Pd0mGHFQl4_91pLIV9MrpAgLbne0eVRhb1CCqZznbDQenDIPPDqDBC7en8bvXlC6AxijUupAGQ7nV-pV99SsYrDQUQrB1KGu-cAUX-qLa1l58EmjjoLU5EUPwYKno_U/s2026/File120%20(2).jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1071" data-original-width="2026" height="211" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjxMZRlRElBjZxqCFOjTZcSpYWpsUslwGF6t7hQ3YHIwe14rMUaZmLIV_50_Pd0mGHFQl4_91pLIV9MrpAgLbne0eVRhb1CCqZznbDQenDIPPDqDBC7en8bvXlC6AxijUupAGQ7nV-pV99SsYrDQUQrB1KGu-cAUX-qLa1l58EmjjoLU5EUPwYKno_U/w400-h211/File120%20(2).jpg" width="400" /></a></div><br /><p><br /></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><br /><p><br /></p>The Jones Genealogisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08384328568699198104noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3013504526338970882.post-59132055582777836932023-11-07T07:46:00.000-08:002023-11-07T07:46:13.096-08:00FYCHAN<p> My Jones surname tree-climbing has presented all types of branches to explore. In the Kentucky and Virginia adventures, during family searches, you would find ancestors with the same first named followed by the letters "Sr." or "Jr.". My American upbring would explain that "Sr." occurring with another with the same first name, but followed as "Jr.", would mean that the "Sr." was the father of the "Jr." This finding would allow the connecting of these two folks correctly in your family tree. This phenomena would help many times fill in the branches, especially during the pre-1800s in Virginia. </p><p> Now crossing the great pond to England and, then to Wales, took me way back to pre-1200s. [the time that this blog presently reaches]! For many years the word "fychan" was assumed to mean "Jr." If the Welsh name followed another with same name, only accompanied by "fychan", it would mean father and son in the direct line to one another.</p><p> At this point in my Jones surname family tree, Irowerth fychan (JI-1) is followed by Gruffydd (JJ-1) and, then by another fellow name Irowerth (JK-1). All three individuals are labeled as being of Llwyn-Onn [now being discussed] and, given in direct line " father to son " in my family tree. Hum...let's see.</p><p> In my <i>Blue Guide Wales</i>, published 1990, V. Eirwen and Gwerfyl Moss discuss "The Welsh Language", pp. 59-65, stating that Fychan is a mutation of Bychan, and means small (p. 63) Whoa...mutation of words. What in the world does this mean? [discussed on page 60] Anyway, in my <i>Welcome to Welsh</i> book tagged "A new complete Welsh course for beginners", published 1984, by Heini Gruffudd, p. 130, states, "bach-small". In addition, my <i>Welsh genealogical Research</i> book by Charles M. Franklin, published 1995, gives the word "bach" to mean small (p.23) and the word "fychan" to mean younger (p.25). Finally, my <i>The Shell Guide to Wales</i> by Wynford Vaughan-Thomas and Alun Llewellyn, published 1969 (my early tree climbing days) gives "Bach (<i>fem.</i> fach). Small. ", whew...certainly not used to mean senior and junior, as used on this side of the great pond. </p><p> Small or younger, your guess is as good as mine when occurs the word FYCHAN.</p><p>P.S. My research is found in RN#6 titled Welsh Language.</p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhjbnQQC6wijtDtnMXPH4hUyvmu81VrCNnge7MFcXVuTnvqVm5jcouDRMG2HqXhItVWIqZpqZti9tS084oo412MusnBKSiyX20R3zV3SxqZMXbQl8G37okOUOGYUK3WeX23EUhgIKAG2N9bzwLPr6vhSkdXfN8rlUOSGMOBIEEBJP1-jsVrMcCrAeiy/s228/welsh-flag-large-anim.gif" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="148" data-original-width="228" height="259" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhjbnQQC6wijtDtnMXPH4hUyvmu81VrCNnge7MFcXVuTnvqVm5jcouDRMG2HqXhItVWIqZpqZti9tS084oo412MusnBKSiyX20R3zV3SxqZMXbQl8G37okOUOGYUK3WeX23EUhgIKAG2N9bzwLPr6vhSkdXfN8rlUOSGMOBIEEBJP1-jsVrMcCrAeiy/w400-h259/welsh-flag-large-anim.gif" width="400" /></a></div><br /><p><br /></p>The Jones Genealogisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08384328568699198104noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3013504526338970882.post-79483766957599069622023-10-22T13:11:00.000-07:002023-10-22T13:11:19.566-07:00Gruffydd (JJ-1)<p> My tenth-generation grandfather down from the top, Gruffydd (JJ-1), would have lived at least his early years at Llwyn-Ynn. Documentation of his location is recorded in the following source and, it is shown below. The information is to be found in <i>Heraldic Visitations of Wales and part of the Marches</i>, Vol. II, by Lewys Dwnn, p.347. It is a valid and reliable source which has helped guide me among the many branches of my Jones surname family tree.</p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg7zYl-9Ku8REYBtGp0DZrm9nZX4Ys0qLW1QxVhxAWvE-iRWs59yZqzp4FqGV92xfbvac9Lfi0k2ekWZle4K9Da8RGfBc8NKIPw6xfx6MqjPe9x70iJkty9ttoZrd7fO-0hsv14RnjuNEeihgIGKz2BsvVS-YxE1uDqPYS92irVqB83r7ba_m3n5-8I/s2205/img089.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="904" data-original-width="2205" height="262" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg7zYl-9Ku8REYBtGp0DZrm9nZX4Ys0qLW1QxVhxAWvE-iRWs59yZqzp4FqGV92xfbvac9Lfi0k2ekWZle4K9Da8RGfBc8NKIPw6xfx6MqjPe9x70iJkty9ttoZrd7fO-0hsv14RnjuNEeihgIGKz2BsvVS-YxE1uDqPYS92irVqB83r7ba_m3n5-8I/w640-h262/img089.jpg" width="640" /></a></div> The top line marked in yellow gives Griffydd (JJ-1) ap Ierwerth (JH-1) ap Ieva (JG-1) spelled in the Welsh. A footnote (8) is shown which directs to the bottom right, also marked in yellow. It states: "Descendant of Tydyr Trefor. He lived at Llwynon, in Denbigshire." A reliable source indeed it is.<br /><p><br /></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><br /><p><br /></p>The Jones Genealogisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08384328568699198104noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3013504526338970882.post-33882740139139715052023-10-11T11:35:00.000-07:002023-10-11T11:35:03.961-07:00Food And Fleece<p> The next windows of time that my Jones surname ancestors explored, showed continual struggles all about. This period of survival, 1200 A.D. to 1300 A.D., was lived and tagged by the family as "of Llwyn-Onn" [see post of 23 August 2023]. Let's see now; air, water, food, and clothing were all necessities of life. From the grass lands of Llwyn-Ynn [summer home], to the plowed lands of Llwyn-Onn [winter home], the family maintained their existence. Part of this struggle involved driving their herds down from the hills to expected locations below. Cows and pigs [food], sheep and goats [fleece] to the long-established portals of management. The cows and pigs to Wrexham, where they were to be handled for their meat, skins and leather, with all their associated dyeing as desired. The sheep and goats were herded to Old Oswestry. Here, they were to be sheared, examined for liver rot [see post 10 March, 2022], and guided to their winter resting places. All the fleece were to be cleaned, prepped, and sent along its paths to Shrewsbury, the cloth capitol of the world. Generation to next generation, this family survival process continued. What a deal! To review the whole story being told, head back to the blog titled "On Lineal Descent" of 10 January 2022. The following blogs add to this story: "The Herds"-1 April 2022, "Sheep Breeds"-24 February 2022, "Shearing Sheep"-24 February 2022, "Counting Sheep"-3 January 2022, and many others beginning with my Celtic ancestors.</p><p> The following chart shows the family tree from Jeuaf (JH-1), the first to move the family back to the Vale of Clwyd, then Iorweth Fychan (JI-1) who was the first to be named of Llwyn-Onn, and the succeeding generations yet to be discussed.</p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgFZfJEQO6GwRVcdsgdcIcVRyafoigvc_dhVr2jS6SvBkS_Wv4LDEEYpBlF_UFpyOKKYUM_lBE5bBxk9rRM-nKkjnMFhtS6euvBJeqSjcMss-sg4VKrs5tVhRjPHpOV5-EVryUCx_BrccuBvvtB5WljrjcBr-RKlN8rUnHcWnFmuZKOPQ7SBxGZqL2Z/s3169/File8.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="3169" data-original-width="2175" height="640" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgFZfJEQO6GwRVcdsgdcIcVRyafoigvc_dhVr2jS6SvBkS_Wv4LDEEYpBlF_UFpyOKKYUM_lBE5bBxk9rRM-nKkjnMFhtS6euvBJeqSjcMss-sg4VKrs5tVhRjPHpOV5-EVryUCx_BrccuBvvtB5WljrjcBr-RKlN8rUnHcWnFmuZKOPQ7SBxGZqL2Z/w440-h640/File8.jpg" width="440" /></a></div> The Vale of Clwyd:<div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjNFWwTlPhUdTa0gqBuz6I66nC8_74MFO4kX_8VHEkfbL-nLB0lFltemNhzYdNKSHKlLU-l80M2Hc78s_um6ITqn-Ye_fT_HCy_yZOJiLMlDTIGE6qUBV2jbDTvacEmdH-97Qn5cx1H2E2LP1BjqzsKSdPKOLYkibrB-lCKFPMeCFiJUFbTyniVY8lc/s616/img074%20(3).jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="616" data-original-width="604" height="640" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjNFWwTlPhUdTa0gqBuz6I66nC8_74MFO4kX_8VHEkfbL-nLB0lFltemNhzYdNKSHKlLU-l80M2Hc78s_um6ITqn-Ye_fT_HCy_yZOJiLMlDTIGE6qUBV2jbDTvacEmdH-97Qn5cx1H2E2LP1BjqzsKSdPKOLYkibrB-lCKFPMeCFiJUFbTyniVY8lc/w629-h640/img074%20(3).jpg" width="629" /></a></div><br /><div><br /><p><br /></p></div></div>The Jones Genealogisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08384328568699198104noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3013504526338970882.post-87647604034784766992023-10-02T12:13:00.000-07:002023-10-02T12:13:05.311-07:00Other Side Of The Mountain<p> The Eglwyseg rocks climbed to a height of 1614 ft. (492 m) above the road that my Jones surname family traveled for many years. At the start of this trail was Dyffryn Clwyd, where the graze land gave the herds of cows and sheep something to do during the summer months. [At this period, a herd of cows was counted as 24]. The town land came to be called Llwyn-Ynn as discussed in the last post. Now some 20 miles southeast, the winter home was called Llwyn-Onn where the cows and sheep could take a break during the winter months. The following figure shows this travel route now along A525.</p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiHZJ5rwMkw9LYDMSTfjpdYXkYZ5Ucpx_sRDDdGdIdntdpwq51juupy_KTWySF98c3altdBi7BiDODZSfuYHizrpsmpljIn0hZ0yMgIfXFDFZqSL05rbeNQ9xJF53dnAKpzu7zx_7I7js2KNtr74qLud0X7xt7K2CjQVxWGzMllPLIPQYaj-MYuTodW/s1143/img086.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="856" data-original-width="1143" height="300" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiHZJ5rwMkw9LYDMSTfjpdYXkYZ5Ucpx_sRDDdGdIdntdpwq51juupy_KTWySF98c3altdBi7BiDODZSfuYHizrpsmpljIn0hZ0yMgIfXFDFZqSL05rbeNQ9xJF53dnAKpzu7zx_7I7js2KNtr74qLud0X7xt7K2CjQVxWGzMllPLIPQYaj-MYuTodW/w400-h300/img086.jpg" width="400" /></a></div><div><br /></div> The Clwyd Powys Archaeological Trust stated on May 5, 2006 that Llwyn Onn Hall could be reached via a private track from the east side of Cefn Road at Pentre Gwyn opposite the junction with Abenbury Road. The following map shows Llwyn Onn Hall Hotel [became B&B] and, Llwyn Onn Hall (farm) to the southeast of Wrexham proper [bottom right conner of map].<div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhqPAzuOMEgpJl61QFS7zHao8kBVS3CGhMXLDIddph5yKLEIYyO4wgWF38HvvKNGlPJTBQquOcB6zTeNPt_61ydTuy3yOaRCl-KpR5rvuMLCT8Z1S9pGA1yP6Vbh53qytiAZcjBdjXviMNj636aQMmPjY5RbaJrsquNh1f2oLh8Y__8C9lbnY7_b_Sn/s1803/img084.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1469" data-original-width="1803" height="326" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhqPAzuOMEgpJl61QFS7zHao8kBVS3CGhMXLDIddph5yKLEIYyO4wgWF38HvvKNGlPJTBQquOcB6zTeNPt_61ydTuy3yOaRCl-KpR5rvuMLCT8Z1S9pGA1yP6Vbh53qytiAZcjBdjXviMNj636aQMmPjY5RbaJrsquNh1f2oLh8Y__8C9lbnY7_b_Sn/w400-h326/img084.jpg" width="400" /></a></div><div><br /></div> The Regional Sites & Monuments Record by Email, sent 5/5/2006 stated: "History Llwyn Onn Hall was until recently the home of the chief family of Wrexham, the Jones's, later Jones-Parry's, who claimed descent from Tudor Trefor. John Norden's survey of the lordship of Bromfield and Yale of 1620 records Roger Jones as holding "one capital messuage, called llwyn onn" and by 1724 Rate Books record the existence of "New Llwyn Onn" presumably to distinguish it from the present house which can therefore dated to at least the early part of the C18 although the fabric suggest a building of the C17, though not neccessarily that recorded by Norden. The Hall was turned into a Hotel in 1986 with the addition of a managers house, and some internal alterations."</div><div><br /></div><div>PRN 102867 - Llwyn Onn Hall Hotel</div><div>Listed Building 1553 (II)</div><div><br /></div><div>NRG:- SJ3587749371 (SJ34NE)</div><div>Unitary authority : - Wrexham</div><div>Community :- Abenbury</div><div><br /></div><div> Much more is written about the property, but from my file dated 5/5/2006:</div><div><br /><div> file://C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\My Documents\E3766\E3766casdwlw1.htm </div><div> </div><div><div><div><br /><p><br /></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><br /><p><br /></p></div></div></div></div>The Jones Genealogisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08384328568699198104noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3013504526338970882.post-22709336415680232922023-09-25T07:37:00.000-07:002023-09-25T07:37:59.016-07:00Sources<p> Relative, reliable and, reproducible are topics which often arise during one's family tree climbing adventures. Having a surname like JONES, perhaps, brings these topics to the forefront frequently. What confidence do you have regarding that family tree you are trying to plant? From Kentucky, to Virginia, to London, to Kent, to Rochester, to St. Asaph, to Llanfair Dyffryn Clwyd, and now to this place called Llwyn-Ynn you ask? Well, here are some sources to Llwyn-Ynn (Onn).</p><p> From Clwyd Powys Archaeological Trust, Curatorial Section, dated 5/5/2006: PRN 17810 - Llwyn-ynn Hall, Listed Building 781 (11), NRG : SJ1323053390 (SJ15SW), Unitary authority :- Denbighshire, Community : - Llanfair Dyffryn Clwyd.</p><p> "In former parkland 2 km south of Llanfair Dyffryn Clwyd, reached from the A525 via Llwyn-ynn lodge. History The main house was of Jacobean character. The surviving wing is probably of the late C17 and may possibly date from improvements of 1672, a date said to have been displayed on the house."</p><p> " Llwyn-ynn hall was mostly destroyed prior to 1985, all that remains being an east wing which is clearly identified in the Royal Commission Inventory as a service wing to the main house. The site of the main house is now void." </p><p> "Exterior The surviving part consists of an L shaped C17 timber framed building and a stone link block of uncertain date. The timber-framed part stands on a high stone plinth, has a gable to the south and another to the east, slate roof with dormer and a tall stone chimney. The timber framing is square and three panels high with top corner braces. The corner posts of the south facing gable are generously jowled. Above tie beam is diagonally panelled. Modern windows. The timber frame to the left flank of the main south-facing gable is in advanced decay. Single storey annex in south east angle."</p><p> "The following is from Cadw's Listed Buildings database"</p><p> "Early C17 and later. Irregular plan and elevation. Stone and timber-framed, with slated roof and central stone stack. 2 storeys, and 2 storeys and attic. Casements and stone mullioned windows transoms and leaded lights. Large turret on west."</p><p> There you have it. All you wanted to know but, too afraid to ask, as some would say in my old Ky home. Next post will give info on the other place some 20 miles east along the high road [see last post]. Will keep those sources coming.</p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiXiGM7PRDd-fPC4Im6tVyB5VfjgImQKElsS_f2at0PJ0ueUACY4wnZsng0D8wH_We8NlUvJJ22Er5xvdL33QeAZaVZxPQp3usdo2gZpfOlOZh65YkFA6IaSq7vU2ECLopzNHp1tRrUlM2Q70ZmsG3igPGLIi3cQSsmMuRHUjbMo_yL41m7LaGnBQrG/s1225/img074%20(2).jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="929" data-original-width="1225" height="486" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiXiGM7PRDd-fPC4Im6tVyB5VfjgImQKElsS_f2at0PJ0ueUACY4wnZsng0D8wH_We8NlUvJJ22Er5xvdL33QeAZaVZxPQp3usdo2gZpfOlOZh65YkFA6IaSq7vU2ECLopzNHp1tRrUlM2Q70ZmsG3igPGLIi3cQSsmMuRHUjbMo_yL41m7LaGnBQrG/w640-h486/img074%20(2).jpg" width="640" /></a></div><br /><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjoZL1TnRObAAtW7kSR7RT-y8Q1F79e8CEesLSgM5Hk7SrlYhYyOg5ooPZz0c-f1HwOUOGTTwVA6JB-PHtyxczji_mt3N-E_MmqYaJFmgFm38b8Oi1rUBj7W1PMhZWeIbiSFKR_8-sQhh1uP5lsy6OpykKfIvWVq2bThDpPvi254fU-Z_EV_q36ARjb/s1529/img082.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1529" data-original-width="1523" height="640" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjoZL1TnRObAAtW7kSR7RT-y8Q1F79e8CEesLSgM5Hk7SrlYhYyOg5ooPZz0c-f1HwOUOGTTwVA6JB-PHtyxczji_mt3N-E_MmqYaJFmgFm38b8Oi1rUBj7W1PMhZWeIbiSFKR_8-sQhh1uP5lsy6OpykKfIvWVq2bThDpPvi254fU-Z_EV_q36ARjb/w638-h640/img082.jpg" width="638" /></a></div><br /><p><br /></p><p> </p>The Jones Genealogisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08384328568699198104noreply@blogger.com0