Sunday, October 13, 2024

Many More Bridges Needed Over These Troubled Waters

        Dark and troubled waters covered the genealogy effort involving my Jones surname tree climbing during these days. [1300-1400 A.D.] Loss of life, loss of family members, loss of land, and maybe even loss of purpose were many of the dynamics that stirred the waters. Last post gave some of the associated family surnames that often helped bridge some issues. Likewise, the following references give additional items that assisted in connecting some branches. They are saved in my research notebooks by topic/subject and, can be searched by issue using the search bar at https://tjgresearchnotebooks.blogspot.com. Please remember RN= (abbreviation for Research Notebook and # = number for notebook followed by content in notebooks).                        Oswestry - Wat's Dyke  RN#163                                                                                                                       Wrexham  RN#164                                                                                                                                           Denbigh RN#165                                                                                                                                                      Llanfair Dyffyn-Clwyd RN#166                                                                                                                                   Co. Flint RN#167                                                                                                                                            St. Tysilio RN#168                                                                                                                                         Land Tenures RN#170                                                                                                                                    A Parallel Chronology RN#172                                                                                                                Family Studies - Summary Tables RN#173                                                                                                                        

Thursday, October 3, 2024

Associated Family Surnames

        Life would never be the same following the "Black Death". My Jones surname family seemed to live another day but, it must have been difficult. The sons of Tudor Trevor (JC-1) all seemed to continue their branches down the family tree. A variety of surnames sharing the same Y-DNA scattered about the same geographic areas now called Denbighshire and Flintshire. A few surnames in Montgomeryshire, Cardiganshire and Merionethshire took their place among the branches. The following group of surnames are found, of course, in Nicholas.

  
    Here they are with their pages listed.

             For Denbighshire: Yale (p.419), Trevor (p.415), Griffith (p.408), Trevor of Brynkinallt (p.415), Trevor of Trevalyn (p.393) [spelled Trev-alyn p. 391, p.395, and p. 376].  Of course, my Jones branches listed as Jones-Parry (p.355, p. 411, p.189).

              For Flintshire: Pennant (p.453), Mostyn (p.451 and p.452), Lloyd (p.450), Eyton (p.446), Young (p.440) and Trevor (p.457).

              For Montgomery: Owen (p.811), Price (p.810), Trevor (p.813) and Lloyd (p.813).

              For Cardiganshire: Lloyd (p.947).

              For Merionethshire: Lloyd (p. 705).

       Whew! All these surnames sharing the same Y-DNA!








Thursday, September 26, 2024

A Drawing Of Llwyn-Ynn

        From my Celtic, to Welsh, to Jones surname, the geographic area near Ruthin seems to be the green, green grass of home. For the century 1300 - 1400 A.D., the Y-DNA component is labeled of Llwyn - Onn (Denbighshire side spelled Llwyn - Ynn).  To date, the only actual "recording" of its existence is shown from a drawing pictured in the text by Nicholas first printed 1872!  Here it is...drum roll please...

       From page 374 it appears black-and-white but, it states taken from a water-color drawing. What it shows is a two story, multi-gabled (dormer) structure fading into the gradual slopping hillside. From a drawing of Llwyn - Ynn to the hillsides of Kentucky, who would have guessed.

        From one of my favorite and most helpful genealogical texts :

       Many, many and many branched of my Jones surname family tree were untwined and established climbing among the pages.

Tuesday, September 24, 2024

Truth Of The Day

        Since the beginning of time upon this earth, land has been one component of human existence. Land ownership and its utilization were often a significant aspect of one's identity and social status. Certain belief systems operated the cultural norms of each day providing a framework in which to help guide the daily activities upon this land. For my Jones surname ancestors living before the "Black Death" (1348-1350) certain presuppositions were widely accepted. 

          Premise 1)   "In the beginning Elohim (sometimes El or Elah) created the heaven and the earth." Genesis 1:1   

Scofield, C.I., The Scofield Reference Bible, Oxford University Press, N.Y., 1909. (page 1 and foot note 1).

           Premise 2)   "And Jehovah Elohim took man, and put him into the garden to dress it and to keep it". Genesis 2:15. 

Same reference as above but (page 7, footnote 5).

            Premise 3)  "...for the wise say...though there be law between persons and each other on this earth, there is no law between angles and each other...save, the will of God."

Jenkins, D., The Law of Hywel Dda, Gomer Press, Llandysul, Dyfed, 1986. (page 71).


       So there you have it before the "Black Death", 1) creation, 2) placement of man in authority in the garden and, 3) the will of God as authority over all, the truth of the day.






Saturday, September 14, 2024

Wool And Wine

        Circumstances surrounding the family frequently influence the activities of the day. For over 100 years my Jones surname ancestors seem to keep their activities in one general area of the earth. [See posts of August 28, September 10, July 29 and, most recently 2nd September.]

       Having managed life on both sides of Offa's Dyke for many generations, wool and cattle, along with lead and salt, seemed some of the activities that kept the home fires burning. Llwyn-Ynn was the grazing side of the fence and, Llwyn-Onn was the get things ready for the world that would continue to need such items.

       Seward in his book states in the 1330s that England was, "...a poor little country whose wealth was its wool" (p.25). On page 31 he goes on to state, "The Flemish were the cloth-makers of Europe and depended on English wool".  At the same time, he notes that Bordeaux "...owed its prosperity to the English connection..." and that, "...wine flowed into England in such quantities as to make it cheap for all save the poorest..." (p. 23). It would certainly seem like a few pints might be a good idea after the Black Death! Wool for wine, who would have thought such a thing to keep folks going along the branches of the family tree? " Wool and Wine"... it was!    

       For Desmond Seward's book, see post August 3, 2023 and February 5, 2023.  A map on page 265 shows the geographic location of Bordeaux (France) and its relationship to England. It was considered an English possession in 1337.              

Saturday, September 7, 2024

Neighbors In Time

        Circumstances that surround the family tree will blow from various angles. In many different ways, shapes, and forms, they will often strengthen or weaken the roots and its branches. One example has been the neighbors that have blown their wills against the foundations of my own Jones surname family tree.

        Many of these folks appeared during the days of Edward I. (1272-1307 A.D.) [see post starting December 1, 2023...then December 9th and December 13th]. New "Marcher Lordships" these neighborhoods came to be called and, some of these neighbors maintained their connections for the next several hundred years. These "connections" provided a means to clarify the genealogical relationships between the very difficult years now being discussed. It was the Vale of Clwyd and the Vale of Dee that brought many of those brick walls well known by all those genealogists out there!

       Reginald de Grey came to occupy Ruthin September 1277 and, received the cantref of Dyffryn Clwyd which contained my own Jones surname land of Llwyn-Ynn [see post April 29, 2024]. His family-maintained claims to these lands for many years to come causing all kinds of winds blowing among the branches!

         Likewise, the surname Fitzalan took claim to much of the land around Oswestry, Chirk, and Bromfield & Yale to my side of the family in the Vale of Dee. These folks took the title "Earl of Arundel" and had much to do with the family around the time of the "Black Death" of 1350s. Richard Fitzalan became Earl of Arundel 1353. 

        Anyway, these families can be discovered in the detailed and informative text by John E. Morris, mostly chart V and several other pages, p.33, p. 63, p. 144, p.178, p. 272 and p. 277, [presented post 3rd December, 2023]. Neighbors in time they certainly were.

Monday, September 2, 2024

Pieces Of The Puzzel

        Family trees contain many items to be discovered. Frequently, putting all the pieces together may seem a daunting task. The post of August 16th gave some examples of added information accruing during this period of my Jones surname family tree. Maternal surnames, geographic locations, identical first names being repeated were a few such items. The following scan places some of these past items in what could be called a "big picture".


         World's End divides the two major locations of my family's activities which are shown by the black arrows drawn on the map. Llanfair- Dyffryn Clwyd, just below Ruthin, and Wrexham located to the East, are connected by a road running north along the border of "World's End"! It certainly might have seemed so during this period of time. 

       A thin red line outlines the biggest, and longest, ditch ever build in the area staring from around 750 A.D. called Offa's Dyke. Extending northward from Old Oswestry it bends a little, rounding World's End on the western side, and then, bending a little more, it passes the old home front Llanfair-Dyffryn Clwyd! A fence between the family for all these generations.

       Now the maternal sides of the family were also from around the same geographic areas, hugging the eastern side of that World's End. These locations are just south of the road connecting all our families. Bersham (x2) and, Rauabon are marked in green, joining our separate kindreds' hands during this stormy time. Can you picture it? Sort of like a purse string drawing us together.  

       These items of my family's story helped bridge the branches which were heading all kinds of way.  Deciphering and straightening the twisting branches much later in my own tree climbing. For a reminder, the next scan shows Llwyn-Ynn Hall from an old map. This becomes the branch of my Jones surname family yet to be discovered. [At the very middle of the page bottom of the scan.] The relationship to Llanfair Dyffryn Clwyd can be identified.

      The next scan shown the location of Llwyn-Onn on the other side of the ditch (Offa's Dyke). This became a second branch of the same family tree. East and West divided along a fence and held together by the grandmothers' branches. [Lower right-hand side written Llwyn Onn Hall (Hotel).]

       Note the difference in spelling.  The western side is spelled "Ynn" (Welsh) and, the Eastern side. (English) "Onn". All items were pieces of the puzzle.

P.S. From my childhood day's memories see post 7 December 2010!