Tribe of the Marches

      Questions frequently arise about the individuals you are trying to decide how they might relate, or not, into your family tree. One such question that arose regarding Tudor Trevor (JC-1) was how did he get titled "founder of the tribe of the Marches" living around 900 A.D. when the Marches did not come into existence until some 200+ years later?  Hum...did not seem to fit chronology if this was actually the case. Digging more around these facts seemed appropriate.

      An article by K.L. Maund titled Ireland, Wales, and England in the Eleventh Century, The Boydell Press, 1991, provided many helpful facts. The second chapter "The Eleventh-century Rulers of Wales: Their Political and Genealogical Relationships" provided all sorts of historical information when the Marches were being formed. On the page titled "ABBREVIATIONS" he shows the known genealogical texts of the time. A great number indeed are shown, and in my working copy of this page are given the various sources:

      

      Wow, just look at them. On page 93 of his text, he notes that the family of Tudor Trevor (JC-1) is "...a noble, not royal, family...". On page 237, Maund, in his index, listed "Tudur Trefor ab Ymyr" which is a somewhat different spelling. In addition, Meic Stephens [see post October 29th, 2022] describes on page 260 that the Welsh genealogical texts were started to be written around 1100 A.D. 

     Now, putting all this together, suggests that Tudor Trevor (JC-1) must have been labeled "Founder of the tribe of the Marches" by those looking back in time through the windows of 1100 A.D., and not by folks living 900 A.D. These factors help fit things a little better into my Welsh family tree and my Jones surname tree climbing.

      These research notes are stored in RN#3 titled "Welsh Genealogy and Pedigrees- K.L. Maund.